For security reasons, your session will be terminated after 2 hours of inactivity. I can tell the crew to steer left, but even if the wind is cooperating, it's going to be a loooong turning radius. Many of our instructors are sharing offices. The limiting factor is faculty: we don't have enough to teach the courses we offer, and we don't have faculty with the right expertise to do this. Hopefully these needs will be met someday at the state level. CSE Masters (CSE and Informatics Undergrad). Applications submitted prior to 2020 and applications for Freshman Direct Admission do not count toward the two-application limit. I would love to see more PhD students teach classes. Are there any plans to address this moving forward and standardize some aspects of the teaching curriculum? But this only goes so far: students have to feel safe pursuing those opportunities, and may not if they've never been to nearby cities. We can't hire substantially more faculty because we don't have space for them. With the increasing diversity of careers relevant to the Informatics curriculum (UX Design, Research, Systems/Data Analyst, Project/Product Management to name a few), is there a reason CSE 373 is still a graduation requirement? [–]Bear-Tamer 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children). More about Satisfactory Progress and Pre-Major Extension. Even then, it's possible everyone else will too, and you won't be admitted. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). So our choices now are grow at the expense of learning and community or stay the same size. Undergraduate Admissions At UW Bothell, you'll earn your University of Washington degree with an emphasis on experiential learning, hands-on undergraduate research and community engagement. Mods please remove this. Why has the application for Informatics for Autumn 2018 been moved to an earlier date (Feb 15) in comparison to past application cycles? Share your experiences doing the kinds of things we do in Informatics outside of class. I heard that there may be a new program, where info majors can take an extra year of info courses to acquire a bachelor's and master's degree in five credit years. What are your thoughts on creating a machine learning class? We actually have quite a few, but you might not recognize them as design classes: 330, 362, 365, 433, 444, 463, 474, and a new 498 called "Designing for Evil". Or are they restricted to only taking classes that would complete the minor? But I don't expect you to understand this yet. (If you want to learn more why it's hard, read some of my research on this subject. Reddit is full of misinformation about admissions. share. You're going to have to dive deep into those to compete for jobs. Have questions? [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (2 children). That's a lot of questions! I liked Jeopardy start Ken Jennings' AMA back in 2011. For example, is it harder to get in as a junior than as a sophomore? [–]Mairnias 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago* (2 children). Unfortunately, we don't have enough faculty partly because we don't have enough space for faculty offices. B.S.). I'm glad to know 360 was helpful! There was a nice little article in the NYT on micro-progress. If every class were 150 students, student learning would suffer greatly. [–]Mancheee 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (5 children), [–]uw_informatics[S] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (3 children). degree with a major in Geography and the B.S. [–]pomegra 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (1 child). Maybe that's you! Here's one: As someone with undergraduate and graduate degrees in CS, I'm quite familiar with the dark underbelly of elitism that thrives in many CS departments. It's terrible. save. How b o u n d l e s s is the admissions team? Many students are undecided about their majors when they enter college — and many who have decided will change their minds more than once before they graduate. As a freshman who has only figured out a potential interest in informatics this quarter, it is very frustrating to know that I will only have one chance to apply to a notoriously competitive major. Anyone here applied/applying to law school? [–]DiscombobulatedWork 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). I don't mean to denigrate CS. (As an aside, I often observe students rely heavily on rumors from their peers to get advice on admissions, even though peers have no access to the ground truth. Take our software architecture course, take my INFO 461 Cooperative Software Development elective, and contribute to open source. Post your questions here and Andy will respond to them during the week of January 29. Congratulations on another account, by the way. That means a slightly shorter time to complete the application. We're not ready to launch it quite yet, but we are developing four courses for it, including BIME 498 offered this Spring by John Gennari. Particularly one for chatbots and natural language processing. I truly appreciate how thorough and detailed your responses have been, and I'm sure that many other students will find this AMA to be a good resource in the future! Computer Science is a great field where you are taught how things work, how to build those systems, and how to make those systems run better. They're sitting around on a 3.5" floppy somewhere, written in Pascal. For more information about our program, including admissions requirements and upcoming info sessions, visit https://ischool.uw.edu/programs/informatics. And it's sharply different from the undergraduate education in computer science I had, which only taught be about algorithms and data structures. [–]Holographic01 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (2 children). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Welcome to the unofficial subreddit of the University of Washington! Completion of the following prerequisite courses (or their equivalencies): BIOL 180, 200, (Minimum 2.3 grade), 220 my classmates, hours before a final project for my operating systems class was due lol. Is every feedback form read and considered? It's nice if web developers know all of these things, but most don't. Does taking INFO classes or other required courses like CSE 143 and CSE 373 actually help your application? Because this means shifting a lot of faculty, staff and student reviewing from summer to spring, we had to stretch out the review period in order for the committee to have time to properly review every application while also doing the rest of their jobs. Without his vision of a program that is practical, driven by community, and grounded people and technology, I don't think the iSchool would be what it is today. For Informatics students, that thing might be web development, it might be data science, it might be interaction design, it might be security. If by "job in the IT industry" you mean "a software engineer in the IT industry", then learn to code and learn to be a great communicator. It's a shame that funding is such a huge and consistent barrier. Complete the Introductory Biology series or equivalent courses to UW BIOL 180, 200, 220 and have a minimum grade of 2.0 in EACH course. What are they talking about exactly? [–]jccaballoSEA ✈️ LA 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago* (2 children). Completing the minimum UW admission requirements does not guarantee admission to capacity-constrained majors. If it's a doctoral student, I do my best to help them developer further as a teacher. Great example, and one of my biggest UI pet peeves. Loaded question, I've been in the program for two years and not a single person in my cohort has complained about a prof's communications skills. And 25% of them didn't even finish college. Any recommendations or advice for Informatics students looking to become researchers in industry? Does the informatics program look at our resumes when looking at applicants? If it's a tenured colleague, I'll ask if they're interested in getting help, or want to handle the critiques themselves. A YEAR WITH COVID-19 How the UW adapted — and responded — to the pandemic . To me, having taking my undergrad in EE at UW and am now in ME at UW as a grad student, the bio department seems like the most well put together department with the best well-structured classes. I do! Can you or anyone else help develop this effort? Argumentation and debate classes in Communication are great for communication. If at any time you have questions, please feel free to contact us by email at uwb info @uw.edu or at 425-352-5000. Your major consists of at least 50 credits and makes up about one-third of your bachelor’s degree program. I've talked a lot with the Dean of the Honors College there about how to build bridges between students in Corvallis and alumni like myself in cities like Seattle. [–]RazzzerBlade 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children). As an info minor I am offended. They seem to have helped people maybe they can help you too. The answer really depends on what you mean by AI: [–]UphieSylphCSSE 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children). [–]Holographic01 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). Reddit is full of misinformation about admissions. All that work to prep for a class? It doesn't. Billion dollar companies don't come from knowing R. They come from excellent communication, collaboration, and listening skills, a holistic understanding of problems, and the ability to see opportunities. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. degree with a major in Earth and Space Sciences, you will earn a double degree. Discovering how to make time for all of this, while still doing everything I normally do (minus one course load), is an immense productivity challenge. The type of pre-major a student is coded as correlates to what that student put on their UW application but does not impact a student’s choice of major later. How would you implement an incentive system at the university level to encourage citizenship behavior in the classroom for a better University culture? All announcements in the General Catalog and Course Catalog are subject to change without notice and do not constitute an agreement between the University of Washington … Although these are both Bachelors of Arts, the Business Administration major is a named degree and so does not have the same degree name as the Political Science degree. No matter how much interest you expressed, there are always more qualified and interested students than we have slots. The INFO courses are only 35 students, so there's a lot of individual attention. As you can see in some of the other replies, there isn't one path through college to web development. There are RSO's like SUDO that provide resources for intl students applying for jobs at visa sponsoring companies. All that said, if that were the goal, we could probably do better than CSE 373 at teaching that thinking. Apply to the top-ranked UW School of Public Health. Engage in academic research with faculty. The INFO courses start with a deep grounding in frameworks and tools, in addition to JavaScript, whereas CSE 154 is relatively shallow on each topic. Any specific posts or comments you would point out as being wrong? Talk to an advisor! UAA Advising catalyzes the broad learning of UW Undergraduates. [–]uw_informatics[S] 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children). Everyone can learn to code. In fact, most of it is misinformation. Would you care to share more about what you'd look for in such a program? If curricula was standardized, the instructors would not be able to play their strong suits. That's unjust and frustrating, but an unfortunately reality of the structural advantages that many youth have in middle and high school. That's very understandable. I hope you're 11, and asking sincerely, but I fear you're 22, and just a douchebag. Be a matriculated student at the UW Seattle Campus and in good academic standing. [–]pomegra 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children). When I was younger (college, high school, middle school), I spent a lot of time time on X-Com, Tie Fighter, Tetris Attack, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter II Turbo, and a long list of other greats. Our lecturers are already sharing offices. Hey Andy, I saw your reply to my comment in the profile page for u/uw_informatics but I can't reply because it got deleted. What it needs is more integrators, who can bridge disparate areas of expertise to solve wicked problems. UPDATE 2: Andy will be responding to questions using the "uw_informatics" account. I'll consider this experiment a success. Scott did a fantastic job taking a program that was just an idea and helping scale it into what it is today. I'm just about to head to class to teach UI design. The name "informatics" isn't universal enough for employers to know what it means, nor will they care what your degree is. It would be harder for our student organizations to organize a group almost five times as large. For now, students returning to other countries will just have to be so valuable, employers look past a degree they don't recognize. The University is building a culturally diverse faculty and staff and strongly encourages applications from women, minorities, individuals with disabilities and covered veterans. How hard is it for an info minor to get into an intro to data science class? Full list of speakers announced for FISH 497 B: Marine Biology Seminar Explore the world’s oceans through the lens of a diverse cast of marine science professionals. But as I've aged, I've become more concerned with the problems in the world (injustice, equity, truth, access). [–]EndenDragonCurrent UW Academy Dropout 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child). Leverage every single minute of their available time to learn. Look at that long tail including natural sciences, other engineering disciplines, math, stats, humanities, business, fine arts, psychology, health sciences, and "something else". [–]uw_informatics[S] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children). To apply for a Biology Major you must meet these minimum application requirements: 1. Interesting idea. That said, there are other implicit limits, such as the availability of seats, the credit limits imposed by the university, and of course, your time. There are great courses in CSE, Design, and HCDE that span all of these areas too. That's always been a terrible rationale for requiring the course, especially given the diversity of interests you note. You will earn a double major when both majors lead to the same degree name (e.g., B.A., B.S., B.F.A. The bottom line here is that no one cares what your degree is. Unfortunately, it's really up to you to develop your interests and work hard. Biology continues to be one of the top 10 majors at UW-Madison sending students abroad. We can't tell you what you're interested in. Then, students can access those opportunities in internships in the summer time. Share stories of your persistence, hard work, and focus. Why so many core Informatics courses which are hard to register for? Get as much instruction from them as you can. I originally wanted to major in Psych but once I saw there were math requirements I changed my mind. They aren't always great as a sequence. [–]pomegra 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). • How long you've been in college isn't a factor in our admissions. For example, transfer students would have no way to take INFO 200, so we still consider their applications. That doesn't mean it's right for everyone or that we do the best job teaching it, but that's the underlying rationale for the requirement. 2. [–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children). We need leaders with principles. In Informatics you would examine the data, realize that the vast majority of your users are in the U.S. or Australia or wherever, and you'd design your list to display the most common countries at the top instead of making people scroll to the bottom. And so we were stuck with an approved minor but no ability to meet its demand. Use your major, whatever you declare, to learn to do things, and recognize that 50% of being a great software engineer has nothing to do with programming. But I can try and answer your question as I stumbled upon this AMA. If I can get to everything on that list in three years, everyone wins! What would your goals be? If an applicant is denied, can you recommend resources or other ways making a career in web development? (That's not rhetorical, I'm actually curious what you think). Unfortunately, admitting everyone would compromise all of those things: in most cases, it would mean larger classes, less feedback, and therefore poor learning. Admission to majors for transfer students depends largely on the program to which you are applying. And be happy you're not at Stanford, where hundreds wait for office hours they'll never get into: https://www.stanforddaily.com/2018/01/28/honor-code-cases-office-hour-queues-among-challenges-of-expanding-cs-class-sizes/, [–]jofish22 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child). 1. The difference is more in what foundations you learn. Our leadership decided to launch, learn, and adapt, rather than cancel it. You can learn those in any major if you're resourceful. Unfortunately, neither program has the resources to hire to meet the incredibly high demand. It's painful, but I choose the latter. It'd be a great elective if we make the right hires. Your possibilities are boundless at University of Washington Bothell. But core CS is quite narrow, like Physics is to Civil Engineering. Is McMahon going to be a housing option for Fall 2021? I know other students in other departments who get pressure from advisors because of the amount of time they are taking to graduate. See this list for the members of the iSchool caucus: http://ischools.org/members/icaucus-members/. That said, if you're up to the challenge, I encourage you to apply. Is this in the works, and if so, will it be introduced in the next year? I wish I could be more prescriptive with the above. Your 37 principles? As educators, we guide and support students in exploring, questioning, and navigating the events and significance of their undergraduate education. Whether intentional or not, this makes it hard or a senior to switch majors and actually graduate. Is there anyone besides you who seriously refers to it as that anymore? When I was a CTO at AnswerDash, I hired CS majors, CS minors, Informatics majors, English majors who did coding bootcamps, designers who taught themselves web development, interaction designers who knew nothing about web development, customer experience professionals who'd never seen a line of code. Instructors read every line of feedback (even when it makes them cry), and often spend weeks processing the feedback (including emotionally, when they've clearly failed). I would love to accept everyone. Getting involved in research is as simple as going to a faculty member's web site, reading their work, and if you find it interesting, writing them an email and asking for research opportunities. Personally, it's meant a big change in my life as a professor. [–]snuqqle 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (3 children). The School of Public Health has a program on Health Informatics and Health Information Management, and ACMS has an option in Biological and Life Sciences, but those programs are more focused on healthcare administration and mathematical models respectively. I'd like to hear your argument against requiring it. Most universities in rural areas end up investing in the companies that are nearby, and relationships with people in cities. An academic program is like a big ship sailing at sea. Can you elaborate? This is a great question. Remember to always go to the source for answers (me, student services). Informatics, basically encourages you to look beyond the code to the people, how that data is organized, displayed, shared, and preserved. [–]literalcircle 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). There are dozens: Hi folks! Why do you have many people on the waitlist since that many students probably won't turn down their admission to the iSchool? [–]uw_informatics[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). There's no easy way around this: you're competing for a scarce resource. It's messy, frustrating, and often intractable. We first need to understand what interest there might be in such a program. Are there other majors that are similar to Informatics you would recommend to someone who doesn't get in? As for collaboration, find as many classes as you can that involve group work. [–]nramos33 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child). This has the unfortunate side effect of giving false hope to some. Running my design class, for example, is a to do list of about 50 one-time and recurring to do items. On the other hand, is it true that it's less likely for you to get in as a freshman? You need to learn web development. 0 comments. Yes, in fact we've just made an agreement with Biomedical Informatics and Medical Education (BIME) to start an Informatics option in health informations. Sometimes I have to choose between canceling a section (and delaying student graduation) or hiring a bad teacher. So, so boundless. But the moment you're promoted, you're going to stand well above your peers for your ability to communicate, collaborate, and contextualize technical work. I love algorithms and data structures, but we need We need CEOs, CTOs, CPOs, CDOs, and CIOs who understand the intersection between people, information, and technology deeply. How much oversight in general does the university have over course content and instructional methodology? For example, in Computer Science you might create a drop down menu where you select your country of origin. After a lot of soul searching Sophomore year, I changed to Journalism which was something that always interested me. One of the difficulties I faced as an alumni was that it was hard to stand out as an informatics student. This is contradicting the previous question but people have told me both are true. I'm not sure why it would be. Then, when I teach it again, I don't recreate my plans, I just execute the plans I made last year. Many of the latest research advances in the past decade have been in program synthesis, crowdsourcing, and energy harvesting, so in the next decade, expect tech to be obsessed with automating software development and integrating software and hardware ecosystems. There was broad agreement at our roundtable: CS must start by confronting the deep insecurities in its students that arise from unnecessary competition in early undergraduate courses. For example, in Computer Science you might create a drop down menu where you select your country of origin. As sekambu said, you'll find R in INFO 201, 370, and 371. Oh good, I'm glad there's at least one troll here. I don't personally think this policy is good for students, and so we work within these limits to serve students interests and goals. CS, more than many disciplines, desperately needs inclusion at its core. Unfortunately, there are a variety of constraints that make that hard to do: Ultimately, it's a choice between maintaining our level of teaching quality or sacrificing quality for access. Despite the challenges, the work is rewarding. We figured it would be better in multiple ways than an in-person town hall. Both conditions need to be met in order for the satisfactory progress rules to go into effect. • The only thing that helps in admissions is clearly expressing in interest in what we have to teach and demonstrating that you will succeed in learning it. If you want to be a data scientist, we have 370, 371, and a new 498 special topics course in partnership with BIME this spring on data science in health. Academic Planning Worksheet: Biology. If it's lecturer or untenured professor, I'll offer professional development resources. Not sure if this is a good question, but here it goes. The only defining characteristic is persistence in the face of mountains of work. I’ve heard that the iSchool will still look at a prospective admit’s application even if they don’t satisfy every prereq, but is it really worth giving it a shot? Informatics fundamentally asks what should be computed, how should computation be used, what role should computing play in society. Let me know what you think. What makes me a competitive applicant for informatics? But I'm finding the time. (Well, I guess I am right now, but this is a special case!). The power I do have is to define values, principles, and priorities, and then empower our faculty and staff to implement them. That's something the world really needs right now. I have a very high threshold for excellence, and generally won't spend my precious free time on something that's great, but not excellent. Think about it: the ground truth of admissions policy is the decisions and processes that the admissions committee makes. Preparation for your intended major is a factor in the review of your UW transfer application. There are a lot more from my 37 principles. And I see no massive $120 million gifts coming our way for a new building any time soon. We don't impose any caps on the number of INFO courses anyone takes: if you can get a seat, it's yours. Its the study, design, and development of information technology for the good of people, organizations, and society. My alma mater, Oregon State, has some of these problems. © 2021 University of Washington | Seattle, WA, 2007, Communications: Editorial Journalism. [–]EndenDragonCurrent UW Academy Dropout 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children). The more you get used to resolving conflict and building consensus, the better. The scope and quality of graduate education at our university is remarkable, as is the caliber of our graduate students. [–]sekambuCSE Masters (CSE and Informatics Undergrad) 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). To build upon that, how would you recommend incorporating those classes (double degree, minor, taking available classes out of major)? [–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (5 children). Great question! The new building, and the new faculty that will come with it, will help CS grow, and that will relieve some demand on Informatics. They are here to help. The only exception to this is if it would have been impossible for the student to take the pre-requisite. You don't need a degree to learn web development. Most students apply to these majors after they are admitted to the UW. Until we can find $20 million for a building renovation, or $150 million for a new building, the space situation isn't going to change. The rationale in the past is that many software companies still rely on pointless and non-predictive coding puzzles that require knowledge from CSE 373. Regards. If I get to where I want to be in life, I might get commissioned to write a book about it someday. The university has 105 and 210 credit rules that incentivize students to finish on a 4-year timeline: https://registrar.washington.edu/course-registration/registration-policies/academic-satisfactory-progress/. If we had faculty with NLP expertise, we'd probably create a class on it, because text content dominates and defines our information world. my friend got into the major even though she hadn’t yet taken INFO 200, but I’m not sure how decisions like that are made. [–]NormanDoor 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). It look 30 years for the world to take computer science seriously, and even then, 60 years into its history, many schools are closing their CS departments. Hello Andy. hide. Or working with the Statistics department to get extra priority for students who are doing the Data Science concentration for Informatics to register for STAT classes? Before posting a question, consider reading some of the sidebar links, or searching the sub. General FAQ and Information Post by a Foster's alum (not business specific), Engineering Admission Statistics (through 2014). To help us decide if that's you: If every applicant did all six of the above, we'd have some tough choices to make! [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children). Is this projected to change much with the opening of the new CS2 building? [–]wootz12 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children). I have already inspired several to write their own. Also, accept the fact that everyone in the world is better than you at doing something. Thank you so much! Talk to an advisor! We need them a lot more than we need more engineers. Moreover, the value of skills you can learn in arts and sciences is higher than you think. Too many freshman/transfers come into UW with the mindset that they are going to 3.7+ every class but that simply not the case for stem classes because almost all of them are curved.