U.S. Travel Ban: This Is How It's Costing Europe Billions Theres no evidence that animals scavenged the Holandesas., Panamanian IMELCF Forensic Anthropologist, This is from the Daily Beast interview with Jeremy Kryt titled: The Lost Girls, the Bones, and the Man in the Panama Morgue. Hi Anna, yes, Im aware of that and thank you for shedding light on that for other readers. According to ageographicalexpert, the three-mile stretch is relatively easy to explore, and most missing tourists return without assistance or come across search parties looking for them. The identity of the person who took the images remains a mystery. Hi Jim, I appreciate your comments but please lay off the language of calling people fools. Watch Lost in the Wild Season 1 Episode 1. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. She makes a last effort to wake her friend. Perhaps the owner had an underlying influence/incentive to express conviction in his or her statement about the dog. Panama International Travel Information It does look like a manmade structure. To the creator of this photo analysis Thank You, excellent work. Its a subtle difference, but you can tell the girls smiles are forced in those two photos and are not like the natural happy smiles in the other summit photos. Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? Thats suspicious and leads me to question if government was involved to some degree. He has a weapon like o jr t in his hands. Theymade numerous emergency calls afew hours into their hike; logs show they managed to connect only oncedue to poor reception in the forest. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? Despite search teams, which included dogs and helicopters, there were no . And why? Should have read this before I commented lol. Or if they went, they could have been followed by someone the murderer (or murderers). What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? Also theres a distinct small x made of branches or plastic in the top-mid right corner of the pic amongst the foliage that looks a part of the make shift roof/net. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. I noticed this too. I think most of what people are seeing -other than the obvious, of course- is pareidolia. But without DNA samples, finger prints, etc, its hard to prove anything. Panama: Seven young people killed on trip to Gatn Lake She also is DEFINITELY looking to the right of the person with the camera (presumably Lisanne). Also and I am assuming the phones where in their possession the phones actually did acquire a signal some times but clearly they were not being used so they did not know. It is extremely easy to photoshop a photo once it has been darkened. Caruso, 56, died on June 17 after staying at the Boca Chica Resort in Santo Domingo. Jumping to conclusions too early, or on the basis of too little and incorrect information is likely to lead to the wrong conclusions. If it is not possible to join those two points together then that would at least shine light on the possibility that a third party was involved at some point leading to the appauling possibility that they genuinely were lost for some time (until the 5th?) It would also be useful to know if the metatarsal bones of Lisannes foot had showed any signs of healing. Was someone who's still out there responsible for their deaths? Too many coincidences. I dont buy it that those girls were murdered on the pianista trail. If someone died, you would certainly write, Body can be found at xyz.. Regarding accidents (My father a doctor always said accidents do not exist. Something drastic happened it is clear but what exactly and where exactly? I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. Being disoriented, and losing a companion, hunger, asthma. The supporting pole is diagonal from upper right to lower middle indicating the path is beginning to head down. If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul One thing which confused me were the bras the smaller one looks more like a bikini top. So why did they go on a trip on April 1st? There are . Nobody is safe. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. In which photos? They couldnt have been that far away from the return trail to Boquette. Do mobile phones store the number entered? Thats just shadow that the camera didnt illuminate. So easily noticeable. Theres a blood splatter on her leg from her tendon being cut, to keep her from running away. The group of 13 youngsters - nine from Coln province and four who were visiting from Panama City - left on Friday morning to go swimming in Gatn Lake. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. Panama City Beach tourism numbers break records for 2021 - WJHG Also, the parents did not release all the images. Perhaps a piece of a tarp or a wrapper? Theres so much conflicting information regardless of which theory is chosen. The indigenous people know how to use phones watch the Kinga documentary. The women wanted to see as much of Boquete as possible,hiring a guide to showthem around on April 2, 2014. Yes theres a man to her left crouched down wearing beige/ beige/ brown. Yes indeed!I hadnt noticed that before!is it a carved rock of sorts?. Please read. Hi Ray, thank you for your comment. When a bad break happens at ankle level and the body decomposes and gets scavenged once the flesh and muscle is gone the foot and shoe are separated from the rest of the leg. Its sad because Panama is a beautiful country with a lot of wonderful people. In the yellow circle could be just a leaf, but not in the red one. No,they werent murdered. This is a great question. Or is it all part of a cover-up? So if you look behind her bottom theres a patch of light which is the light at the other end of this tunnel and shes holding her right hand up to her face to sweep back a piece of hair. I just would like to know if you see that as well? In May, a 61-year-old American man went missing and was presumed to have gone overboard while on a cruise through the South Pacific, according to a report from the Australian Associated Press. Apparently it would also have been easy to alter the time stamps on the photos. ^ But the galvanized sign marking the terminus of the Pianista isnt really the end of the trail. In fact, theres a very obvious, albeit mud-choked, passage that goes down the other side of the crestonly to intersect with an entire web of paths constructed and used primarily by members of the indigenous Ngobe tribe. On one hand, its more liberating and freeing. What do you think? After any incident the first 24 hours are critical and it seems all that time was lost. ITS SHAPED LIKE A BRA. I could be wrong, but until I see some compelling evidence to the contrary, Im sticking with Juans theory. I just find it strange that no video diary or fotos of each other made after 508. Thank you for your comment. Sorry to send so many messages Chris, but as a policewoman I have never liked to give up on a case.. Hello Apparently this villager travelled abroad, adopted extremist Christian views, returned home and started a cult in his own village which resulted in human sacrifices of other locals. The Missing Panama Girls: A Closer Look At One Photo Its all speculation until more answers are found. Thanks for your comment. As the effort wore on, they enlisted the help of the Wisconsin-based volunteer search and recovery organization Bruce's Legacy and set up a GoFundMe to help defray the costs of bringing the nonprofit to Panama. Where did you hear this? Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. Why no video diary? Has anyone thought to look further into the hosts dog (Blue)? Hi Chris thanks for the link to the book. Right above it. If they did, then Im wondering if the dog named Blue went with them or was allowed in the taxi. Her hands could be tied behind her back but, if this is the case, then much computer editing was involved because other photos that come AFTER this one in camera sequence show Kriss walking ahead of Lisanne WITHOUT her hands tied behind her back. I would start at both ends of the trail meaning working forward from where they started their walk and backwards from where their pathetic remains were found. However, if this photo showed that someone had hit her, why would the culprit not delete it along with photo 509. Hope this was not a member of one of those mad religious sects that, over the years, have been torturing and killing people in Panama. I cant explain it but again it resembles so many of the bizarre cases which author and former cop David Paulides has brought (thousands of these similar events) right here in the US and Canada. They took a swim before the trip with to local young man the same day they went in the forest. How come nobody ever says anything about the other girls bones and and what she was doing while these pictures were being taken of Chris that was way ahead of her ? Either way, itll be interesting to see. There are too many variables involved, so I dont speculate much about the dog. I dont appreciate the internet trolls who dump havoc on peoples insights. I dont think theres anything untoward I think shes saying look at this tunnel. Cheers. https://postimg.cc/94q0cVhH. But there are a few holesin this particular theory. Both of these 2 boys died shortly after, by murder or by accident. Keep in mind, these are my observations Ive made since moving from the USA. Only returning them in hopes of getting the reward. WHY? It most certainly is not a joke. Call us in Washington, D.C. at 1-888-407-4747 (toll-free in the United States and Canada) or 1-202-501-4444 (from all other countries) from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., Eastern Standard Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. The 2020 cristian massacre was committed by a couple of men who were definitively altered in their state and heard voices etc. Visit Panama City Beach officials tell us in 2021, our tourism numbers were up 50% over pre-pandemic numbers. People have long realized that its up to the public to solve this. One indication is that I cannot see the shoulder strap of her top that is obscured by her white/fair forearm. The backpack contained two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, two bras, a water bottle - and importantly, Lisanne's passport. Ive already researched a lot about the local conditions: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon-panama-bleached-bones/. I agree. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). All of this leads to resentment and frustration, which results in higher crime rates. Remains of 2 American women missing after Panama plane crash recovered Nonsense. Apr 4, 2022 The number of international visitor arrivals in Panama surpassed the one million in 2021, after having plummeted to less than 700 thousand as a result of COVID-19 impact on tourism. Terrible for the parents. If thats what Im seeing, I have no doubt that it was murder and that this photo and several others have been manipulated. Seriously? Again NO SIGNAL! This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. Theres a red cord tied around her waist that wasnt on her in any of the other photos. However there appear to be yellowish/beige shadows and it looks like a sandstone cliff. The non-waterproof lycra backpack mysteriously shows up, with completely dry contents. Here is the comparison: I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon (lost unreleased/uncompressed original Between taking the last foto (Nr 508) at 12:54 local time and the first SOS call at 16:39 local time something happened. My interest would be to see if its scientifically possible for the official theory to have happened. A table of photo data from their hike on El Pianista Trail: New Case Data: Timestamps Of Missing Daytime Photos. If you are sending an SOS message then they are received 24 hours a day. Perhaps the truth will come out someday. Kris and Lisanne's families decided to fly out to Panama and bring Dutch detectives with them. Out of all the photos that have been released this photo disturbs me the most. Certainly, each country around the world offers valuable experiences in their own way. Hi Em, thank you. From Chriss other article it seems the girls took a taxi to the hiking starting point? The blue item could be anything, but shows someone has been there before. This story struck my heart. Hi Chris..I just came across this story yesterday and it was really sad and disturbingI hope the truth comes out too. Ive been to Brasil and the Amazon and spent nights there in the rain with a crowd though. Does anyone see what I see? They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. The structure at the back of this small ravine looks like a hideout that a military man might make, as part of survival training in the jungle. 4. The insignia looks more like a darkish skinned face peering through a narrow window and observing the girls from behind some sort of screen. Government corruption is the core of the problem. The camera could have malfunctioned but this seem highly unlikely. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. I also see something above the brown circle, like a ring of colored balls or ???? Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. Shes describing the things youve noticed on the pic!!!! December 12, 2022. That is EXACTLY what it looks like to me! Its worth mentioning how the police found out that someone tried unlocking Kris Kremers phone, but failed to do so. And it seems to be leading to a dead-end. Their story captivated me for some reason. Thats perplexing to me. I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. Yes, I can see that too Chyna Lee. On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. This is because people who knew the area were able to recognize that the nighttime photos were likely taken at Caldera springs, more than 20 miles from the area the girls allegedly went missing at. Im always reviewing their case and looking for answers. Constance Marten seen leaving court after appearing before magistrates charged with manslaughter of baby, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon blow each other a kiss in dock before court hears dead baby was found in bag in shed, Mum identified after dead baby is found on Canford Heath, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). Have you performed this same work on any of the other case photos? If so then those could tell some information. Not everything is a complex conspiracy, people. Note the shadow across her face , covering her eyes: that is from her hand. There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. I become very confused and not starting from Go and not knowing what is fact and what is anecdotal I just do not know. I created this graphic and highlighted the unusual items that seemed peculiar to me: In this photo of what looks like a cave or overgrown ravine, there are numerous possible items that suggest this place had been visited by other people.